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Redi Tlhabi talks to Kim Daniels about the growing tensions between the Vatican and the US under Donald Trump.
As Pope Leo XIV celebrates his first year as pope, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio visited the Vatican, which he says has strained relations between Donald Trump and the Roman Catholic leader.
Pope Leo has been one of the most vocal opponents of the US war in Iran, repeatedly calling for peace and opposing the Trump administration’s approach. So where does US-Vatican relations go from here?
This week on UpFront, Redi Tlhabi speaks with Kim Daniels, Director of the Initiative on Catholic Social Thought and Public Life at Georgetown University.
Published on May 11, 2026
